tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28543539.post7096120682810243093..comments2023-09-20T11:15:28.673+01:00Comments on Transform Drug Policy Foundation Blog: The Daily Mail's occasional forays into drug law reformjanehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15263261726046054614noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28543539.post-29016565767108880072010-11-05T10:51:17.797+00:002010-11-05T10:51:17.797+00:00controlled isnt any use - illegal drugs clearly ar...controlled isnt any use - illegal drugs clearly arent controlled atall. thats the distinction being made with the term illegalSteve Rolleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11487781869462634203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28543539.post-1833330021397824852010-11-05T10:47:24.534+00:002010-11-05T10:47:24.534+00:00"Controlled drugs" NOT "Illegal dr..."Controlled drugs" NOT "Illegal drugs". Please stop using the langusage of the newspapers man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28543539.post-40691484824526932572008-04-15T08:54:00.000+01:002008-04-15T08:54:00.000+01:00One of the main reasons Brown has been pushed into...One of the main reasons Brown has been pushed into this reclassification is because of Papers like the Daily Mail printing a huge number of unsubstantiated scare mongering nonsense around cannabis.<BR/>It was to be expected tnat the Tories would trot out this nonsense hence IDS and the 30 times stronger or the 10,000 seeking treatement both being proved to be spurious and seriously misleading. But the worrying thing is that Labour has also been swept up in this reefer madness reporting. So we now have where we are now, a PM probably enacting a policy based on thin air and unsubstantiated nonsense and also being told that this is so by the countries leading experts.<BR/>I can see how we ended up burning witches in the middle ages.john-boihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09732295610674915256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28543539.post-61429395869218237102008-04-15T02:27:00.000+01:002008-04-15T02:27:00.000+01:00browns recent proclamations on re-re-classificatio...browns recent proclamations on re-re-classification is nothing more than an attempt to signify the virility of his govt.<BR/>and i'm sure there is a significant chunk of the population with whom he hopes to curry favour that believes this meaningless move ....a fair proportion of this demographic to my mind would me dm readers tho....interesting timesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28543539.post-26162866177419667122008-04-13T21:39:00.000+01:002008-04-13T21:39:00.000+01:00I'm talking about the Daily Mail, David , not the ...I'm talking about the Daily Mail, David , not the ACMD - so not quite sure what your getting at. I've given some examples of the Daily Mail's poor reporting, and also written about the ACMD stuff elsewhere. Linking cannabis re-classification to an increase in heroin deaths as the Mail did recently under the headline - 'the deadly downgrade' was straight scaremongering. <BR/><BR/>no one - least of all me is denying cannabis harms. theres a big difference however in a sensible discussion of these and how to address them, and some of the hype and exploitation of the issue we have seen over the past few years in, but not exclusively restricted to the Mail. <BR/><BR/>and if the debate is dead why are you still here having it? <BR/><BR/>The only place i could be accused of ad-hom attacks is regards littlejohn, who, Im afraid, I do find utterly vile. If you want to comment defend his linked comments on murdered prostitutes feel free.Steve Rolleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11487781869462634203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28543539.post-31132651971362575652008-04-13T11:10:00.000+01:002008-04-13T11:10:00.000+01:00Pots and kettles Mr Raynes; no stranger to the ad ...Pots and kettles Mr Raynes; no stranger to the ad hominem attack himself:<BR/>http://johnnyvoid.wordpress.com/2008/03/24/talking-about-cannabis-the-scientology-link/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28543539.post-11748713048505733372008-04-13T09:21:00.000+01:002008-04-13T09:21:00.000+01:00And of course there are those many people with me...And of course there are those many people with mental health and drug problems in prison - increasing punishment for drug use is not going to help them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28543539.post-36646874291404694432008-04-13T08:11:00.000+01:002008-04-13T08:11:00.000+01:00David - these are my notes from the ACMD meeting t...David - these are my notes from the ACMD meeting to which you refered :<BR/><BR/>"He talked generally about Dual Diagnosis<BR/>Patient suicides - there are higher rates for those people with mental illness and a chaotic pattern of drug use, and cannabis is one of the drugs. <BR/>He also talked about use of street drugs on psychiatric wards<BR/>He said cannabis contributes to relapse and risk and health professionals have been complacent.. It is right to be cautions about any causal connection<BR/>Need for public health education and improved services<BR/>He said if it were moved ot B it would not reduce use. It could reinforce strong public health message. Regrading could lead to more powers against dealers (incuding those who hang around mental health units). But it could also mean mental health patients getting punishments. It is finely balanced <BR/>.<BR/>Comment from an ACMD menber - the punishment for dealing would not change. And in reply to a question about alcohol, Louis Appleby said he could have given the same talk about alcohol - there is difficulty in disentangling ."<BR/><BR/>***<BR/><BR/>Yes there are huge problems with cannabis and mental ilness - which Louis Appleby as a heath lead and me as a parent who sees all this agree on. But I do not agree with him - and he did say it was a fine line - that moving it to B would do anything whatsoever to help the situation. Many of the people I know who have a dual diagnosis neither know nor care what the legal status is of the drugs they take. And in any case they are subject to different "laws" under the mental health act. <BR/><BR/>Helen Sello<BR/>Cannabis HMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28543539.post-46756939076159725832008-04-13T00:09:00.000+01:002008-04-13T00:09:00.000+01:00"Drug war scaremongering" Steve? Distortion? is th..."Drug war scaremongering" Steve? Distortion? is the pressure getting to you? Were you paying attention at the ACMD hearing? Was "Professor Louis Appleby, National Director of Mental Health for the Department of Health"-scaremongering? Did you listen to what he said? Does he work for the Daily Mail? The more you indulge in ad hominem attacks the more you sound desperate and ridiculous. Legalisation in the UK is now a dead issue with cannabis up or down the classification system. It is over. Get on with the rest of your life, you have talent a plenty. I am old enough to advise you not to waste it. Instead of indulging in desperate sarcastic attacks why not put up your notes of what Professor Appleby told the ACMD, the inconvenient truths that you would rather the public do not know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28543539.post-52264754400379973042008-04-12T18:01:00.000+01:002008-04-12T18:01:00.000+01:00This highly dangerous practice has become known as...<I>This highly dangerous practice has become known as ... "E" by gum.</I><BR/><BR/>Someone call David Amess!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28543539.post-77489881223717692632008-04-12T17:32:00.000+01:002008-04-12T17:32:00.000+01:00Yorkshire clubbers have started taking ecstasy in ...Yorkshire clubbers have started taking ecstasy in liquid form using dental syringes.<BR/><BR/>This highly dangerous practice has become known as ... "E" by gum.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28543539.post-27163413630106009962008-04-12T16:22:00.000+01:002008-04-12T16:22:00.000+01:00Hmm, the Mail article equates any cannabis use wit...Hmm, the Mail article equates any cannabis use with heavy drinking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com