tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28543539.post6722555214084669034..comments2023-09-20T11:15:28.673+01:00Comments on Transform Drug Policy Foundation Blog: The year is 2022 and drugs are legal.....janehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15263261726046054614noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28543539.post-24645657777174913282008-02-07T11:35:00.000+00:002008-02-07T11:35:00.000+00:00If... drugs were legal is available via P2P. The n...If... drugs were legal is available via P2P. The name of the file in Emule<BR/><BR/>If.Drugs.Were.Legal.[DivXForever.Net].avi|<BR/><BR/>The film addresses the question of new drugs, but cocaine is absent. I don't think pharmaceutical companies will ever enter this market, though.DDAAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13444025834720354562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28543539.post-85456593818472554422008-01-22T18:13:00.000+00:002008-01-22T18:13:00.000+00:00Hi daksyaI appreciate that there may well be diffe...Hi daksya<BR/><BR/>I appreciate that there may well be different drugs or different forms of drugs around in 14 years. Ive been to some discussions on this for example the drug futures exercise the government undertook a couple of years ago. But for the purpose of this piece I thought I would consider existing drugs that people understood the risk/harm profiles for. <BR/><BR/>I would have liked to talk about hallucinogens too but didn't have the space.....next time. The regulation would probably fit into the pharmacy model - perhaps with less strict regulation for lower dose plant based products like magic mushrooms - and heavier restrictions of the more concerntrated, longer acting or risky drugs like K and LSD. The idea being obviously to encourage safer patterns of use.Steve Rolleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11487781869462634203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28543539.post-90740713197936353552008-01-22T16:28:00.000+00:002008-01-22T16:28:00.000+00:00I skimmed the article and a few points come to min...I skimmed the article and a few points come to mind:<BR/><BR/>1)Powder form is still around?<BR/><BR/>2)Haven't the fruits of psychopharmacology affected the market? e.g. in 1990, David Nichols at Purdue U. reported on 2 compounds that fully substitute for MDMA in rats (stimulus discrimination) but don't exhibit lower levels of 5-HIAA afterwards, taken as putative marker of 5-HT neurotoxicity. Of course, in prohibition, nothing much came off this research. Also, Shulgin's 2 catalogues have many interesting compounds in them, like, relatively short-acting 2C-B. Will powder cocaine still be the drug of choice on the party circuit?<BR/><BR/>3)What about LSD? Ketamine?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28543539.post-11970853283312327532008-01-22T14:57:00.000+00:002008-01-22T14:57:00.000+00:00hi chris....the clinic would be likely to be in th...hi chris....<BR/><BR/>the clinic would be likely to be in the more run down/ low rent areas where the greatest concentrations of problem users are. That was based on the locations of such clinics/needle exchanges/treatment facilities are in the real world now. <BR/><BR/>the treatment stuff was to point out the Government have shown an interest in increasing funding addiction services when there is a secondary agenda - in the 80s it was HIV, in the 90s crime reduction . when those agendas dissapear or diminish in the post prohibition era theres a real danger that treatment funding will dry up - theres little money going into alcohol and tobacco treatment now. <BR/>That was, I grant. quite speculative, perhaps to highlight a risk so that the field can prepare for it. <BR/><BR/>I had thought about including legal brothels instead of massage parlours (it was in an earlier draft), as there is a certain commonality in the regulation of drugs and regulation of sex workers arguments, but we made a decision to steer clear of being seen to advocate a position that hadn't been worked through and agreed on.Steve Rolleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11487781869462634203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28543539.post-85423485761633319432008-01-22T13:01:00.000+00:002008-01-22T13:01:00.000+00:00Very inventive and I commend you for your hard wor...Very inventive and I commend you for your hard work and the limitations that you had to stay within. I understand that you tried to avoid writing how you would like things to be rather than how they might be but one would assume that by winning the argument to end prohibition that education and health promotion would play a role in the ‘DRA’ era. In which case a more rosy view of the future I feel would be appropriate.<BR/> <BR/>Part of the argument to end prohibition is to have positive effects on society and recreational pursuits, with the increased education and advice around people would make better life choices. <BR/><BR/>Would clubs and pubs and the streets still be full public drunken disorder as they are now? Why is the ‘North Street Clinic’ placed in some kind of depraved or seedy area? A stereotype of heroin use/users seems to have been used here. <BR/><BR/>‘Greasy fast food shops and massage parlours’. What is that all about? In this advance of forward thinking in society that got real about drugs this would suggest that there was a long way to go in addressing the current issues with obesity and the sex trade that are of concerns to our society in 2007 also!<BR/><BR/>Why would treatment for problem drug and alcohol use be reduced to the current levels of alcohol services? The fact that alcohol services are underfunded may go some way as to explain the current state of affairs in society and its attitude to alcohol. Treatment services surly would need to play a major role in the education and health promotion of healthy living and harm minimisation?<BR/><BR/>Is this kind of vision going to win converts to the argument?chrisbx515https://www.blogger.com/profile/14111482518141374105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28543539.post-22740391826608552382008-01-22T12:56:00.000+00:002008-01-22T12:56:00.000+00:00Good work SteveI have read the first couple of pag...Good work Steve<BR/><BR/>I have read the first couple of pages and it gives an interesting perspective, some nice reading on my lunch break :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28543539.post-41423732592292307682008-01-22T12:00:00.000+00:002008-01-22T12:00:00.000+00:00You could do a film on this i guess, and I dont th...You could do a film on this i guess, and I dont think it matters where you set it (although I imagine a developed country urban location).<BR/><BR/>The problem is that the whole point of legal regulation is to take the drama out of the market. gangsters and guns make good tv, whereas shops, chemists and doctors don't. the BBC tried to make a film like this sa few years ago called 'if drugs were legal', but couldn't get there head around the fact that regulated drug markets are, by there nature and intention, a bit dull. The intention is to de- glaomourise and medicalise the scenario. The fact that you would have heavy restrictions on marketing and advertising further diminishes any potential visual drama. The BBC ended up, despite extensive discussions with us, having starey eyed wierdos using exotic looking syringe based drugs and various evil corporaste interests. and flying cars. it was rubbish. <BR/><BR/>so [possible - but would have to be done carefully and very well to avoid repeating previous mistakes.Steve Rolleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11487781869462634203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28543539.post-6567445014864805492008-01-22T08:06:00.000+00:002008-01-22T08:06:00.000+00:00nice one roller... could be a film in that... Lets...nice one roller... could be a film in that... Lets talk... Could we set it in Western Australia??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com